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Author Topic: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
geoapaxon

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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: August 27, 2015,
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Not aware of any actual short line by the name of Pgh Terminal. There were about a hundred short lines around Pgh that mostly belonged to steel and coal cos. but not ne by that name. Not to say it wasn't so. But, there were no electric operations by that name. Could be a hypothetical like my Mountain Electric Railway.
Cheers,
Geo

raybaumill-
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Posts: 386
Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: August 28, 2015,
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Hi,
Well if there wasnt any Pittsburgh Terminal. Lets put Johns Pittsburgh Terminal on tap as an off line destination.
RAy.

geoapaxon

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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: September 1, 2015,
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You can route cars to John's Fort Pit Terminal via my Mountain Electric if you like.
Cheers,
Geo

raybaumill-
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Posts: 386
Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: September 8, 2015,
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Hi,
I forget what they call the destination sign on a trolley so using ur Mountain Electric what would a Fort Pitt Terminal destination sign look like via Mountain Electric ??? Like 44 knoxville via Pa Sta. That would be for an interurban. Did John's passenger trains destinate also at Fort Pitt Terminal?? I have to get the Pittsburgh Wabash Terminal book. If anyone has that book what trains or interurbans terminated at the Pittsburgh Wabash Terminal??
RAy.

raybaumill-
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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: September 22, 2015,
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Hi,
Okay a couple of pieces of John's layout went to Scace and there was a nice write up in OST about it. So where did the other pieces go and will there be follow up articles about how they were used??
RAy.

geoapaxon

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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: September 23, 2015,
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P&WVa passenger trains quit running in the late 20s or early 30s as I recall and there was a later local service for a few years. They were the only trains to use the Wabash Terminal station. Pgh Railways street cars went past the building and would have stopped there in the old days.
cheers,
Geo

raybaumill-
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Posts: 386
Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: September 24, 2015,
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Hi,
I dont remember if I remember the Wabash Terminal itself. I have a photo of the old post office building that was up the street from the terminal and near the B&O station and I remember the building, being in it and around it and once even looking for it, knowing that it was missing but apparently I missed the demolition for the most part. I do remember walking by looking at the hole etc but didnt connect the two. So no wabash passenger trains used the wabash terminal in pittsburgh?? So if the P&WV used it, do u know of any photos of what their cars looked like?? I do remember the bridge across the mon to where the terminal was and the foofahrah over it. It was suggested before it was put in the river that an arboretumish park would have been nice. But of course that must have been toooooooo forward thinking than just tearing it down. Like the wonderful Post Office building. Its a good thing ancient rome is over there or we would have bulldozed it years ago. Fortunately they did use the wabash tunnel. Which is a small miracle no doubt.
RAy.

raybaumill-
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Posts: 386
Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: February 13, 2017,
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Hi,
I mentioned in one of the threads about Ellison's Delta Lines going to Boston I believe. Seems that there was a mishap and of course the whole layout didnt make it one piece. I came across the mention again in MR and it was possibly going to find a home at the Childrens Museum of Transportation. If anyone in Boston has been to this place and knows more about the whereabouts of the Delta Lines would be nice to be apprised of such.
RAy

GP-9

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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: February 16, 2017,
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Ray, being from the Boston area I remember some of the story. It seems that the truck broke down and that another truck was called and the load was transferred. But it was not packed the same, in the first truck the heavy items were on the bottom with the buildings on top. When it got transferred to the other truck the buildings ended up on the bottom with the heavy items on top. From what I remember not all the buildings were destroyed, and I seem to remember an article in a magazine that some of the buildings ended up on someone else's layout.
I am not sure about it going to the Childrens Museum. I also seem remember something that when the truck to truck transfer took place it was raining, and that was how the layout got damaged.

Bill

raybaumill-
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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: February 24, 2017,
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GP-9,
Okay that fills in some of the blanks. Some detective work is still needed or someone else who knows something can add some more. Would be nice to see if something was done with it even if it was outside 3rd rail.
RAy.

raybaumill-
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Posts: 386
Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: March 10, 2017,
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Hi,
Okay apparently John A knew a thing or two about the Pittsburgh Terminal. I came across a listing in railpub that mentions the Wabash-Pittsburgh-Terminal RR. It is only a 3 or 4 paragraph blurb but it is pure gold. So John A's traction cars are probably lettered right and actually have a destination at the Wabash and Pittsburgh Terminal. The author mentions being inside the terminal itself and mentions places for freight and passenger service. Some clever boots needs to make up an on car marquee for these cars.
Also there is a book about the Wabash at Pittsburgh. Guess Ill have to upgrade it from my must have list to get it even sooner list (HAHA). Just too young to have been a camera toting maven at the time the bridge was still there.
RAy.

raybaumill-
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Post Re: Armstrongs Canandaigua Southern
on: August 11, 2019,
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Hi,
Someone from Boston should go see if Delta lines is at the children's museum of transportation. Or maybe call. Of course by this time no one there probably knows anything at all.
RAy

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