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Author Topic: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
Bob-
Delbridge

Posts: 294
Post Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: July 31, 2016,
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I ordered another BlueRail board Tuesday (got it Thursday, not bad from one coast to the other!!!), got it installed in my WbB E7 Friday. The E7 had been sitting w/o any power in it for over 2 years.

The install included the BlueRail 2amp board, a 9.6v, 2000Mah, NiMh battery pack, on/off switch, charging jack, and 2 LEDs. I mounted the on/off switch thru the window on the rear door of the E7 and drilled a hole thru the door for the charging jack. Painted they're hardly noticeable, with a diaphragm mounted you can't see them unless you're directly behind the engine.

This morning I ran an endurance test on it:

Engine weight = 4lbs. 9oz.

I had it pulling 5 passenger cars:

1) Weaver plastic "American Flyer" (coach converted into a combine) (2lbs)

2) Weaver plastic "American Flyer" coach (2lbs. 1oz.)

3) OK Engines aluminum coach (2lbs. 2 oz.)

4) OK Engines aluminum sleeper (2lbs. 4oz.)

5) OK Engines Sun-Lounge (2lbs. 1oz.)

Combined weight 15lbs. 1oz.

Used the basic setup on the BlueRail App on my Ipad and ran it as a passenger engine at 50% throttle.

I timed the train and it took 1m19s to go 1 mile = 45.5mph

After 2 hours I checked it again and the time was 1m17s = 46.75mph. This is probably the longest the E7 has been run since I bought it!!!

At 2hrs 15m the engine slowed down and stopped, looks like the run time of 2+ hours on a 2000Mah battery is going to about normal, that's about what my Weaver RS3 ran also.

I guess there's no way of signalling when the battery is low??? Best thing is not to leave it unattended and KNOW that 2 to 2.5 hours is average.

No problems encountered during the 2hour+ run.

Here's a short 18sec video for your viewing enjoyment!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ88W7i_DKY&feature=youtu.be

BobD.

sleepmac

Posts: 8
Post Re: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: August 7, 2016,
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Bob, would you be willing to say about how much the package cost? The video sure was nice running.

Thank you,
Dan Weinhold

Bob-
Delbridge

Posts: 294
Post Re: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: August 8, 2016,
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Dan, here ya go:

BlueRail board and 9-pin to 8-pin harness is $100 from Bluerail
http://bluerailtrains.com/board-sign-up/

9.6v, 2000Mah NiMh battery pack $15 from All-Battery
http://www.all-battery.com/96v2000mahsquarefutabant8s600btransmiterbatterypack11417.aspx

I got the BIK-U3B on/off switch/charging jack combo from Tony Walsham of RCS Australia $22US:
http://www.rcs-rc.com/pages/bik-u3v2

You can also get a similar one from Don Sweet of RCS of New England, but I couldn't find the price ($???) listed:
https://www.rcsofne.com/

LEDs from Model Train Software/Evans Designs, 10-pack pre-wired ($18):
http://www.modeltrainsoftware.com/bl-214f.html

You'll also need a NiMh battery charger from All-Battery ($22):
http://www.all-battery.com/chargersfornimhandnicdbatterypacks24vto60v.aspx

So that's $177 plus shipping. You'll also need some wire, maybe a battery cable adapter (from one type plug to another from your local RC shop), solder, heat shrink tubing.

Once you get started, you won't have to buy another charger unless you swap types of batteries, and if you get things in quantities (like the LEDs) you'll save there too.

You may be able to save $$$ on the charging jack as well. I haven't looked at my local hobby shop but they may have a jack that mates up with the jack on the charger. The BIK-U3 is nice, but on my 2 engines with the BlueRail board I used one of those simple on/off micro switches you find on the bottom of most command control trains these days. The BIK-U3 comes with polyfuses that open when an overload occurs and reset themselves. I usually install 1 at the motor and 1 at the battery.

I also saved a few bucks on the battery packs too. I found All-Battery was selling them on either E-Bay or Amazon with free shipping!!! They actually came from the same warehouse as the ones on their site!!!

OH...and of course you'll need that Iphone or Ipad, but I figure just about every living being on the planet must have one by now.

If you're starting with a conventional engine or a shelf queen then I'd say do it. If you do like I did and gut the PS2 electronics out of your PERFECTLY RUNNING ENGINES...then you may feel you've crossed the sanity line.

BobD.

sleepmac

Posts: 8
Post Re: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: August 12, 2016,
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Bob, thanks for the info! Looks good from here.

Dan Weinhold

raybaumill-
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Posts: 394
Post Re: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: October 31, 2016,
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Hi,
Blue rail has something here using blue tooth. Still a bit of change. Downloaded the app. My phone must not have had the right OS but got it on my tablet. Without the blue tooth gadget doesnt see anything so doesnt do anything but it is certainly a non messy way to go.
RAy.

Bob-
Delbridge

Posts: 294
Post Re: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: November 1, 2016,
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Ray,

Yes, you do have to have an engine with the BlueRail bluetooth board installed to see the App work.

Word is they are working on a board designed for O-scale use!!! I know the 3 engines I have set up with the HO board are pushing the limits of the board. I have had them shutdown a couple of times, but no damage so far. Dave Rees at BlueRail asked me to play around with the onscreen settings, so I did and got better results. A board made for O will solve these issues.

Just a guess but if Bachmann/BlueRail is successful making a board that's close to the size of the HO board I will expect to see them being offered in their Williams by Bachmann engines soon after.

All I can say is that I now have 13 battery-powered engines, 11 steam and 2 diesel (all converted to 2-rail as well). I still have 4 TMCC (Lionel/ERR) equipped diesels and 2 diesels with DCS PS2 (MTH), but I haven't run them but for maybe an hour in the last 18 months. I have to put down a circle of 3-rail track to do that!

The BlueRail HO board is 2-1/8" x 3-3/8" x 3/8" (28x59x5mm), hopefully the O-scale board won't be much bigger.

BobD

Bob-
Delbridge

Posts: 294
Post Re: Williams E7 With BlueRail BPRC
on: November 17, 2016,
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I finally got around to installing a 2" wireless bluetooth speaker in the E7.

I bought the speaker at Target for $5, took it apart and decided with a bit of Dremeling I could get it to fit inside the body.

Here's some photos and a video I made and sent to Dave Rees at BlueRail so he could see what I've been up to.

I think the sound quality is fine, might need a better selection of sounds as BlueRail used generic sounds I believe. I did tidy up the wiring a bit inside the unit so it's not as messy looking as the photos suggest.

BobD

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